21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. Sign upSee new Tweets. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. Retweets. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. " / Twitter. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. I’m packing it up. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. At least for the next 6-8 years. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. 3. bob trollsby. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. That was a guarantee. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). Quote Tweets. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. Retweets. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. 3. 5% each. Houston and BYU applications are in. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. Also the FB CCG. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. com. Sign upSee new Tweets. That’s it. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Log in. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. 33. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Likes. And they all already know the current numbers. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. 2. 2. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. 1. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. AZ too. @m_iguel_ca. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. ”Log in. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Retweets. ”Log in. No one has control. 13. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. Likes. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. Taking a small break from sharing. ”Log in. That’s it. @MHver3. @MHver3. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. Replying to @MHver3. Replying to . 19. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. They know. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. help. Staples: The realignment battle for No. 3 — is made for TV. ”Log in. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. Huskies have come back to the table. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. That’s it. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 11. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. This happened sometime in the past few days. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. 7h. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. FSU is the most attractive maybe. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. Likes. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. 239. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. that will be accurate. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. 2. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. GIF. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Replying to. twitter. @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. . In person. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Replying to @MHver3. Boise. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. Retweets. Replying to. yes they are extending his “deadline”. ”Log in. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. Found. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. Retweets. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. @bobtrollsby. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. and @Mountaineer_Ste. I don’t think that’s an option for us. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. Likes. Jul 12. ”GK about to get shipped to China. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. I’ve even called it that myself. Might even see a Huskie or two. They are looking at 1. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I actually don’t want more western schools. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. That is all. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. 23. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. Now it’s been twice verified. ”@MHver3 · May 25. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. “@BobOThomson Yes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Boise is not completely off the table in football. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. There’s a catch. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. MHver3 @MHver3. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. MHver3 @MHver3. Likes. Things have escalated. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. 3. ”Log in. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. 27. It was $24. and. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. 17. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. 2. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. I actually don’t want more western schools. 19. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. @MHver3. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Replying to @Brewenor. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. @MHver3. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. AZ has and AZSU problem. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. @MHver3. ALT. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. @MHver3. @MHver3. $320m per year for 12 years. 1. Retweets. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. Taking the four will crush the P12. All 3 tiers. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. @cwishn. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. 2. Retweets. Louis Oliverio. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. BC, Wake, Cuse. AZ has and AZSU problem. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. Sign up. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. Amazon gets more first choice. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. As did VT. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. 7. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. MHver3 @MHver3. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. OMG I was wrong. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. There. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. ·. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. Log in. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. 4. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. FSU is the most attractive maybe. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. Ed. ·. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. MHver3.